Of all the Australians who have made a name for themselves on Wall Street, Matthew McLennan can surely lay claim to be among the most prominent.

Born in Papua New Guinea and raised in Queensland, McLennan landed in New York via Sydney and London and is now the co-head of First Eagle’s global value team, overseeing the asset manager’s $US62.3 billion ($94.7 billion) global fund.

It’s far from your typical equities fund. In fact, more than 10 per cent of the portfolio is invested, not in stocks, but gold bullion. In addition, the fund has stakes in listed gold miners which lifts its total exposure to the precious metal to more than 14.5 per cent.

And in a year in which gold has been among the hottest commodities, it’s a position that has paid off for investors in the fund, which returned 19.07 per cent in the 12 months to July 1.

“The reason we own gold is it’s the embodiment of scarcity value,” McLennan tells The Australian Financial Review ahead of his appearance at the Sohn Hearts & Minds charity conference in November this year.

“You can create more nominal claims on a sovereign entity, but gold is relatively fixed in supply, and so it’s a good potential hedge against that nominal drift accelerating in the economy.”

In other words, gold is there to protect value in times when central banks are pumping the global economy with money or governments are flooding it with debt.

But is the rally in gold near its peak? McLennan doesn’t think so.

“I would argue that gold has recovered from depressed levels relative to equities, and depressed levels relative to the stock of government debt, to more rational price levels.”

McLennan insists he’s not a “gold bug” and in April amid the market rout, he was trimming the fund’s gold exposure to buy beaten-down stocks.

In fact, the past year has been unusual in that both stocks and gold have enjoyed a solid rally which has meant the precious metal hasn’t just protected the portfolio but enhanced it.

The global sharemarket gained 16.7 per cent, but the gold price jumped 42 per cent and the index of gold miners was even higher at 55.3 per cent.

For McLennan, the dual rise in stocks and gold is a “very important price signal in markets”.

“What it tells you is that the real value of money has gone down. The market is making a judgment that real assets, in aggregate, are worth more, and the symmetry of that is that there’s an expected greater supply of fixed nominal assets.”

By fixed nominal assets, he means bonds, and in particular government bonds. The worry he shares with the market is that we’re getting closer to the limits of how much money governments can borrow, and ultimately repay.

If the 1990s was a crisis in corporate debt, and the 2000s a crisis centred on household debt, “the emergent risk for the decade ahead has been sovereign in nature”.

McLennan is also concerned that United States indebtedness is high at a time when most Americans have jobs, and the country will lack the capacity to borrow what it needs if the economy turns.

In time, the market is going to demand higher interest rates to lend to the government either because inflation goes up or the risk of default or debasement goes up.

“The absence of a risk-free rate is global in nature, and it’s an interesting backdrop for what’s going on in markets at the moment,” the fund manager adds.

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Risk of complacency

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For now, the market appears to have set aside its worries about how the US will be able to finance its deficit as sharemarkets are back at record highs and corporate debt spreads have contracted to their lowest levels since the global financial crisis.

“When you have easy financial conditions, low credit spreads, high multiples, there’s less asymmetry between price and prospects,” McLennan says.

“Prospects can improve, but you’re already pricing some improvement. So, I think there may be a risk of complacency in risk assets.”

And if the next six months is as eventful as the last, the market’s confidence is set to be shaken again.

“If there’s one commodity, the market’s short of its patience.”

McLennan was first hired at Goldman Sachs in Sydney in 1994 before he eventually found his way to London where he ran a global equity fund for the firm’s private clients.

In September 2008 just as Lehman Brothers was collapsing, and the global financial system was on the brink, McLennan joined First Eagle, a firm with a heritage that dates back to the 1800s.

The timing was hardly ideal, but the real challenge was to come. Because the value style of investing, which can broadly be defined as buying stocks on low valuations, has been out of favour ever since.

Since January 2009, the MSCI value factor has lagged the global index while the MSCI growth factor is 43 per cent ahead.

“The essence of a value mindset is that you see risk as a permanent impairment of capital. For us, our primary objective as investors is to avoid the permanent impairment of capital.”

McLennan says the traditional value investing approach of buying the cheapest stocks based on certain crude measures left investors exposed to “adverse selection risk”. In other words, they may end up owning businesses with weak market positions, vulnerable balance sheets and poor management.

“We have to feel comfortable with a business first before we assess value,” he adds. “Ultimately, you have to feel comfortable that there’s some persistence to the cash flow stream and some integrity to the positional attributes of the business before you can capitalise earnings.”

Among First Eagle’s largest current holdings are Meta, Oracle, HCA Healthcare and Philip Morris.

The 56-year-old has managed to survive and flourish on Wall Street for three decades. So, what’s his secret?

Patience, he says.

“If there’s one commodity, the market’s short of its patience. Having a patient temperament enables you to weather protracted windows where your approach might be short on social acceptance.

“It helps you stick to a philosophy, even though there may be fads in between that lead other people into what turn out to be dead ends.”

Another essential quality in funds management is humility, he adds.

“The reality is that much of what you’ve learned in business school is how to model statistical risk. But the truth is, a complex system like the world economy is much better described by uncertainties.

“You just have to be open-minded to the fact that the reality can be quite strange. If you construct portfolios that can be robust in hard-to-imagine scenarios that gives you some staying power.”

The Sohn Hearts & Minds takes place at the Sydney Opera House on Friday, November 14, 2025. The Australian Financial Review is a media partner and tickets can be purchased here.

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