‘The Mooch’ says Trump will have to cut China tariffs below 10pc

Scaramucci, who is best known as The Mooch, is the first big-name global investor to be confirmed for the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney in November.
Anthony Scaramucci says America has no choice but to lower tariffs on China further. Jaclyn Licht

James Thomson

‘The Mooch’ says Trump will have to cut China tariffs below 10pc

May 19, 2025
Scaramucci, who is best known as The Mooch, is the first big-name global investor to be confirmed for the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney in November.
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Anthony Scaramucci, the Wall Street investor who famously served for 11 days as White House press secretary in Donald Trump’s first administration, says the US has no choice but to reduce tariffs on China to below 10 per cent, and is likely to face further credit ratings downgrades as its budget crisis rolls on.

Scaramucci, who is best known as The Mooch, is the first big-name global investor to be confirmed for the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney in November. He also says Trump appears to be getting bored with the trade war he started just six weeks ago, and will start to focus on how much money he can personally extract from his presidency.

“The guy’s f---ed up. His worst instincts are to take the money,” Scaramucci told The Australian Financial Review from his New York office.

Scaramucci, who runs alternative asset manager SkyBridge Capital and manages a New York Stock Exchange-listed cryptocurrency ETF, has become a strident critic of Trump since his infamous stint as White House communications director back in 2017.

But he maintains close ties with many of Trump’s closest confidantes, including his sons Eric Trump and Donald Trump jnr; in August, Scaramucci will appear at a crypto conference with Trump’s sons.

“They like me. I like them. The fact that I think their father is nuts is no big deal. There’s an expression in New York that there’s a red party and there’s a blue party in America, but there’s also a green party,” he said, brandishing a bunch of $US100 bills at his web camera with a grin.

Scaramucci said that while China ultimately needed an end to the trade embargo with the US, it was Trump who backed down last week when the US announced it would reduce tariffs on Chinese imports from 145 per cent to 30 per cent. He predicted the Trump administration would end up settling for much lower tariffs.

People in Los Angeles shop at a party supply store, where the majority of items are imported from China. Tariffs of 30 per cent “are a recession here”, says Scaramucci.  AP

“He’s now down to 30 per cent, and you know that’s going below 10 per cent. It has to, because 30 per cent is a recession here,” Scaramucci said. “There’ll be a massive capitulation over the next 60 to 90 days. They call it TACO over here – Trump Always Chickens Out.”

Scaramucci said Trump was happy to hand control of the trade negotiations to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent because the former hedge fund manager had the trust of Wall Street.

But he pointed to arguments that Bessent has previously made against tariffs as proof the treasury secretary and other senior officials are in thrall to Trump and the power they have as part of the administration.

“These guys have Potomac fever. So what is Potomac fever? I want to be on Air Force One. I want to walk into the White House. I want to feel the connection to power and also think I’m smarter than everybody else. I’m going to go to Washington, and I’m going to change Washington. But very few people, including Donald Trump, change Washington.

“One of the big symptoms of Potomac fever is that you don’t know you have Potomac fever. I didn’t know I had it. But I had it, you know?”

Scaramucci said Trump and Bessent’s famous three-legged policy stool – use a combination of tariffs, tax cuts and deregulation to reduce the US budget deficit and get the US economy booming – was more “like one of those auto trolleys that you use to go underneath the car. You know, it’s got wheels on it, and it spins around directionlessly”.

The removal of America’s last AAA credit rating by Moody’s on Friday night was more evidence of how little the market believes in the plan, he said.

“I’m surprised [the downgrade] didn’t happen five years ago and in the next five years there will be further downgrades.”

Scaramucci will be a star attraction at the 10th edition of the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference, which will be held at the Sydney Opera House on November 14. The event, which was founded by Matthew Grounds, Gary Weiss and Guy Fowler, has raised $78 million for medical research over the past decade, which is about a third of the $US150 million ($233 million) that the broader Sohn network of conferences has raised over its 30-year history.

Weiss attended the Sohn New York conference last week to accept an award recognising the Australian event’s contribution.

Hearts and Minds Investments Limited, the listed investment company established to allow Australian investors to trade the stock picks presented at the Australian Sohn conference each year, has also announced a leadership change, with former Challenger boss Richard Howes to replace Brett Jollie as chief executive.

Howes said he was excited to keep growing the annual conference, but will also be focused on closing the discount between the value of the net tangible assets in the Hearts & Minds LIC and its share price.

“I think people think of Hearts & Minds largely in terms of its philanthropic success, but as an investment vehicle, which is very much connected to the conference, it is very innovative and very unique.”

This article was originally posted by The Australian Financial Review here.

Licensed by Copyright Agency. You must not copy this work without permission.

Anthony Scaramucci, the Wall Street investor who famously served for 11 days as White House press secretary in Donald Trump’s first administration, says the US has no choice but to reduce tariffs on China to below 10 per cent, and is likely to face further credit ratings downgrades as its budget crisis rolls on.

Scaramucci, who is best known as The Mooch, is the first big-name global investor to be confirmed for the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney in November. He also says Trump appears to be getting bored with the trade war he started just six weeks ago, and will start to focus on how much money he can personally extract from his presidency.

“The guy’s f---ed up. His worst instincts are to take the money,” Scaramucci told The Australian Financial Review from his New York office.

Scaramucci, who runs alternative asset manager SkyBridge Capital and manages a New York Stock Exchange-listed cryptocurrency ETF, has become a strident critic of Trump since his infamous stint as White House communications director back in 2017.

But he maintains close ties with many of Trump’s closest confidantes, including his sons Eric Trump and Donald Trump jnr; in August, Scaramucci will appear at a crypto conference with Trump’s sons.

“They like me. I like them. The fact that I think their father is nuts is no big deal. There’s an expression in New York that there’s a red party and there’s a blue party in America, but there’s also a green party,” he said, brandishing a bunch of $US100 bills at his web camera with a grin.

Scaramucci said that while China ultimately needed an end to the trade embargo with the US, it was Trump who backed down last week when the US announced it would reduce tariffs on Chinese imports from 145 per cent to 30 per cent. He predicted the Trump administration would end up settling for much lower tariffs.

People in Los Angeles shop at a party supply store, where the majority of items are imported from China. Tariffs of 30 per cent “are a recession here”, says Scaramucci.  AP

“He’s now down to 30 per cent, and you know that’s going below 10 per cent. It has to, because 30 per cent is a recession here,” Scaramucci said. “There’ll be a massive capitulation over the next 60 to 90 days. They call it TACO over here – Trump Always Chickens Out.”

Scaramucci said Trump was happy to hand control of the trade negotiations to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent because the former hedge fund manager had the trust of Wall Street.

But he pointed to arguments that Bessent has previously made against tariffs as proof the treasury secretary and other senior officials are in thrall to Trump and the power they have as part of the administration.

“These guys have Potomac fever. So what is Potomac fever? I want to be on Air Force One. I want to walk into the White House. I want to feel the connection to power and also think I’m smarter than everybody else. I’m going to go to Washington, and I’m going to change Washington. But very few people, including Donald Trump, change Washington.

“One of the big symptoms of Potomac fever is that you don’t know you have Potomac fever. I didn’t know I had it. But I had it, you know?”

Scaramucci said Trump and Bessent’s famous three-legged policy stool – use a combination of tariffs, tax cuts and deregulation to reduce the US budget deficit and get the US economy booming – was more “like one of those auto trolleys that you use to go underneath the car. You know, it’s got wheels on it, and it spins around directionlessly”.

The removal of America’s last AAA credit rating by Moody’s on Friday night was more evidence of how little the market believes in the plan, he said.

“I’m surprised [the downgrade] didn’t happen five years ago and in the next five years there will be further downgrades.”

Scaramucci will be a star attraction at the 10th edition of the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference, which will be held at the Sydney Opera House on November 14. The event, which was founded by Matthew Grounds, Gary Weiss and Guy Fowler, has raised $78 million for medical research over the past decade, which is about a third of the $US150 million ($233 million) that the broader Sohn network of conferences has raised over its 30-year history.

Weiss attended the Sohn New York conference last week to accept an award recognising the Australian event’s contribution.

Hearts and Minds Investments Limited, the listed investment company established to allow Australian investors to trade the stock picks presented at the Australian Sohn conference each year, has also announced a leadership change, with former Challenger boss Richard Howes to replace Brett Jollie as chief executive.

Howes said he was excited to keep growing the annual conference, but will also be focused on closing the discount between the value of the net tangible assets in the Hearts & Minds LIC and its share price.

“I think people think of Hearts & Minds largely in terms of its philanthropic success, but as an investment vehicle, which is very much connected to the conference, it is very innovative and very unique.”

This article was originally posted by The Australian Financial Review here.

Licensed by Copyright Agency. You must not copy this work without permission.

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IFM Investors small cap specialist Rikki Bannan addresses the Sohn Hearts & Minds Investment Leaders Conference at Sydney Opera House. Picture: Renee NowytargerIFM Investors small cap specialist Rikki Bannan addresses the Sohn Hearts & Minds Investment Leaders Conference at Sydney Opera House. Picture: Renee NowytargerIFM Investors small cap specialist Rikki Bannan addresses the Sohn Hearts & Minds Investment Leaders Conference at Sydney Opera House. Picture: Renee NowytargerIFM Investors small cap specialist Rikki Bannan addresses the Sohn Hearts & Minds Investment Leaders Conference at Sydney Opera House. Picture: Renee Nowytarger
November 17, 2023

Hot Stocks To Ride The Next Healthcare Trends

Healthcare stocks – from sleep apnoea giant ResMed, to cancer diagnostic biotech Telix Pharmaceuticals – were recommended at the Sohn Hearts & Minds Investment Leaders Conference on Friday.

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November 17, 2023

How Daniel Loeb, The Real Bobby Axelrod, Made His Wall Street Billions

When Damian Lewis, the actor who plays the ruthless hedge fund boss in the drama series Billions was looking for inspiration, he sat down with Daniel Loeb.

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November 17, 2023

The 12 Hottest Stock Tips From This Year’s Sohn Experts

It might be time to look beyond big names. That was the message from top fund managers, company founders and super funds at the Sohn Hearts & Minds.

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Azora Capital founder Ravi Chopra. Picture: Renee NowytargerAzora Capital founder Ravi Chopra. Picture: Renee NowytargerAzora Capital founder Ravi Chopra. Picture: Renee NowytargerAzora Capital founder Ravi Chopra. Picture: Renee Nowytarger
November 17, 2023

Webster Financial ‘Avoided The Mistakes Of US Bank Failures’

The US financial sector is not without its problems but Ravi Chopra backs Webster Financial Corporation as his stock pick for the 2023 Sohn Hearts & Minds Investment Leaders Conference.

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November 17, 2023

Why Stock Picker Cathie Wood Of ARK Can’t Stand Google

The world’s highest-profile tech investor, Cathie Wood, might be bruised but she is certainly bullish. Nor is she holding back.

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Munro Partners partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney. Picture: Renee NowytargerMunro Partners partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney. Picture: Renee NowytargerMunro Partners partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney. Picture: Renee NowytargerMunro Partners partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney. Picture: Renee Nowytarger
November 17, 2023

Wise Share Price Could Rise 50pc By 2025, Says Munro Partners

Global growth fund manager Munro has about $4.3bn in funds under management across four global funds, and usually invests in companies that are poised to win from massive structural change.

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November 16, 2023

Hedge Fund Veteran Talks Lowest Moment In Toscafund’s 23-Year Run

Most hedge fund managers brag about their wins and shy away from their losses – Martin Hughes is not most hedge fund managers.

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November 16, 2023

The ‘Armageddon Scenario’ Worrying The Future Fund CIO

Mr Samild shared his thoughts on the bond market – which underpins the returns of other assets – ahead of his appearance at Friday’s Sohn Hearts & Minds charity conference at the Sydney Opera House.

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Daniel MacArthur with Melbourne scientist and assistant professor Misty Jenkins. Both will be speaking at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney.Daniel MacArthur with Melbourne scientist and assistant professor Misty Jenkins. Both will be speaking at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney.Daniel MacArthur with Melbourne scientist and assistant professor Misty Jenkins. Both will be speaking at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney.Daniel MacArthur with Melbourne scientist and assistant professor Misty Jenkins. Both will be speaking at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney.
November 15, 2023

Advancing Medicine Is In Daniel MacArthur’s DNA

When genomic scientist Daniel MacArthur had the opportunity to set up a new Centre for Population Genomics in Australia in 2019, he jumped at the chance to return home after 12 years living overseas.

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November 15, 2023

Ashish Swarup - Invest In Snacks, Let's Get That Bread | Aikya Investment Management

Ashish Swarup, Portfolio Manager and Investment Analyst of Aikya Investment Management joins Bryce and Ren to discuss emerging markets, and two stock deep dives.

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Surging interest rates have delivered new investment opportunities for Wall Street hedge fund Third Point. Picture: Getty Images/AFPSurging interest rates have delivered new investment opportunities for Wall Street hedge fund Third Point. Picture: Getty Images/AFPSurging interest rates have delivered new investment opportunities for Wall Street hedge fund Third Point. Picture: Getty Images/AFPSurging interest rates have delivered new investment opportunities for Wall Street hedge fund Third Point. Picture: Getty Images/AFP
November 15, 2023

Daniel Loeb’s Wall St Hedge Fund Third Point Raises Bets On Corporate Credit Crunch

An “obsession” around balance sheet strength and debt is creating a new wave of investment bets for the influential Wall Street hedge fund run by Daniel Loeb.

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November 13, 2023

Bond Bullish On Commodity Stocks, Uranium

Mining stocks are poised to rise amid tight supply for key commodities such as copper, nickel and uranium, says Terra Capital founder Jeremy Bond.

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November 13, 2023

This Hedge Fund Manager Is Making A 100-Year Bet On Luxury

European leisure and luxury – a designer handbag, a last-minute flight to Monte Carlo, a stay in a five-star hotel – is where many choose to spend their hard-earned cash. For Sharif el Khazen, it’s where he makes it.

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Munro partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore says Nvidia will be critical in the expansion of accelerated computing. Picture: NCANewswire / Nicki ConnollyMunro partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore says Nvidia will be critical in the expansion of accelerated computing. Picture: NCANewswire / Nicki ConnollyMunro partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore says Nvidia will be critical in the expansion of accelerated computing. Picture: NCANewswire / Nicki ConnollyMunro partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore says Nvidia will be critical in the expansion of accelerated computing. Picture: NCANewswire / Nicki Connolly
November 12, 2023

How Munro Will Pick Its Next Stock Winner

Munro partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore must select a single company to pitch to an audience of industry heavyweights at the prestigious Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney.

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Ray Dalio last month. His hedge fund has been under heightened scrutiny with the release of a tell-all book. Picture: BloombergRay Dalio last month. His hedge fund has been under heightened scrutiny with the release of a tell-all book. Picture: BloombergRay Dalio last month. His hedge fund has been under heightened scrutiny with the release of a tell-all book. Picture: BloombergRay Dalio last month. His hedge fund has been under heightened scrutiny with the release of a tell-all book. Picture: Bloomberg
November 12, 2023

The Australian At The Centre Of Dalio’s Bridgewater – Who Loves It

The culture at Ray Dalio’s massive hedge fund has been a source of intrigue, and with a new book, controversy. Atul Lele says it’s made him a better investor.

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Sheila Patel has had an extraordinary career across Goldman Sachs and now the VC sector. Picture: Dominic LorrimerSheila Patel has had an extraordinary career across Goldman Sachs and now the VC sector. Picture: Dominic LorrimerSheila Patel has had an extraordinary career across Goldman Sachs and now the VC sector. Picture: Dominic LorrimerSheila Patel has had an extraordinary career across Goldman Sachs and now the VC sector. Picture: Dominic Lorrimer
November 10, 2023

Meet The Goldman Sachs Legend Shaking Up Venture Capital

Sheila Patel says it was time for the venture capital sector to “grow up” and higher rates will help do that job. VC firms need to think differently about how they invest.

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